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#307375 - 09/05/11 08:42 AM "minimum" problem
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Hi guys. Lately I have problems with the “minimum”. The car rpm-s go to low and sometimes the engine turns-off . This especially happens when the engine is cold.
Now I know of the problems with starting the engine and rpm-s going low on all the fiesta range but I thought it was fixed with the last software.
They told me they uploaded the latest one, how can I check this?
I also have the problem, going down the hill for example, pushing the clutch down and the rpm pointer goes crazy up and down .
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#307376 - 09/05/11 08:44 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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clean the throttle body

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#307377 - 09/05/11 08:44 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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Have you cleaned out your throttle body

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#307378 - 09/05/11 08:45 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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haha Kenny


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#307379 - 09/05/11 08:45 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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Have you cleaned out your throttle body





lol great minds think a like mate

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#307380 - 09/05/11 08:48 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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Have you cleaned out your throttle body




never. Is it hard to do it? Is the MAF sensor somewhere in that area also, cos I know of the problems when it get's dirty. I'll take a look in ETIS about this.
If you have some other ideas let me know.
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#307381 - 09/05/11 08:53 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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A few people on here have had idle issues that instantly improve with a clean TB, very easy to sort out, u may be suprised at how filthy it gets.........

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#307382 - 09/05/11 10:59 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: kenny]
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clean the throttle body



+1 I did that when I was charged and it stopped me from cutting out too!
It's always the throttle body that needs cleaning!

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#307383 - 09/05/11 11:25 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: Kaxe]
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thanks guys.
my next question is, how do you clean the TB ?
is it just with compressed air or I need some special cleaner/liquid?
cheers.
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#307384 - 09/05/11 11:28 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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carb cleaner do not use wd40

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#307385 - 09/05/11 11:36 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: kenny]
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carb cleaner do not use wd40




thank you.
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#307386 - 09/05/11 12:25 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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clean your air filter too
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#307387 - 09/05/11 12:44 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: YellowBadge]
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clean your air filter too




It'a a K&N panel and I installed it around 28 000km (now I have 30 000km) so I definitely think this is not the case ?
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#307388 - 09/05/11 12:48 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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get some duck tape and tape you accelerator to the floor at a certain level enough so you don't have to hold your foot down when idle incase you loose

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#307389 - 09/05/11 12:52 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: STASON]
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get some duck tape and tape you accelerator to the floor at a certain level enough so you don't have to hold your foot down when idle incase you loose




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#307390 - 09/05/11 04:38 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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Don't play with the butterflys though, believe Dan played with his and messed them up
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#307391 - 10/05/11 08:46 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: Adam08]
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When I had my head and all skimmed, I had the same prob with idle and it was all over the place and stallin on me every time I stopped the car!!!! The air filter was very dirty so cleaned it, and seen the gunk in the throttle body.

Its 4 bolts that take 2 ticks to take off. Use carb cleaner and kitchen roll to clean it. Was so clean when I was done and she run like new car. Idle was perfect. Was crazy the difference!!

DO IT!!!!!!!!!!

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#307392 - 10/05/11 08:53 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: thewhite1]
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Definatly a top tip this one Eratic idle - 9/10 is a filthy TB So always check that 1st
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#307393 - 10/05/11 01:32 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: thewhite1]
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When I had my head and all skimmed, I had the same prob with idle and it was all over the place and stallin on me every time I stopped the car!!!! The air filter was very dirty so cleaned it, and seen the gunk in the throttle body.

Its 4 bolts that take 2 ticks to take off. Use carb cleaner and kitchen roll to clean it. Was so clean when I was done and she run like new car. Idle was perfect. Was crazy the difference!!

DO IT!!!!!!!!!!




sir, yes sir :-).
I'll do it.
thanks guys.
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#307394 - 10/05/11 03:09 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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Lets us know how u get on buddy

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#307395 - 13/05/11 09:36 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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ok, just about to head to the shop to get some carb cleaner, I find on the net some tips not to use the normal carb cleaner but a specific throttle body cleaner.

Also I found on youtube a guy cleaned with carb cleaner and then also with a bit of brake clener?

One guy mentioned that some Ford cars specificaly shouldn't be cleaned with carb/throttle body cleaners because of some special coating they have on the TB.

So i want to be sure not to mess something up. I think I can get the carb cleaner spray. for throttle body spray I'm not sure.
cheers.
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#307396 - 13/05/11 02:54 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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Trust me, ur readin to much into it. Jus any carb cleaner spray. Worked a treat on mines. 15 min job

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#307397 - 13/05/11 02:58 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: thewhite1]
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Yeh i agree, anything but WD40

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#307398 - 13/05/11 03:44 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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ok, just wanted a confirmation. I bought ABRO carb and choke cleaner. tomorrow I'm doing it
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#307399 - 13/05/11 03:50 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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Let us know how it goes, should sort out your problem

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#307400 - 14/05/11 07:03 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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Yeh i agree, anything but WD40




Just ask Dan the man
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#307401 - 14/05/11 08:57 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: Alex_H]
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Yeh

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#307402 - 21/05/11 02:41 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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TB cleaned . It was very dirty. I'll put some photos later on
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#307403 - 21/05/11 04:06 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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Have u noticed a change at all??

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#307404 - 21/05/11 04:16 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: ROB IS THE STIG]
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Have u noticed a change at all??




well it behaves different but I didn't take it for a ride yet. I'm going in the next hour. I'll update later on if it solved the problem.
in the parking when I switch on, I push the accelerator, it revs, and then it doesn't go all the way down immediately but in 2 stages, first to around 1100, and than lower to default idle. This could maybe even be because of the reset? (I removed the battery while I was doing all the work as stated in ETIS procedures when cleaning TB, and then when everything was ready, turned the key in position 2 for 1 minute so the TB "makes" all the data.
cheers.
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#307405 - 21/05/11 04:17 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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#307406 - 21/05/11 06:01 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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Have u noticed a change at all??


it revs, and then it doesn't go all the way down immediately but in 2 stages, first to around 1100, and than lower to default idle




Mine does this, it idles at 1100 until warm so I wouldn't worry too much
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#307407 - 31/05/11 02:50 PM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: Duncan_P]
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hi guys. here are the photos of TB.

dirty:






cleaned:









and this is the "part" after TB inside. It's very dirty. I cleaned it with the rag as deep as I could have reached.





The car definitely works better now, and this was really an easy fix.
cheers
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#307408 - 02/06/11 08:39 AM Re: "minimum" problem [Re: geronimo]
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think i'll do this to mine at the weekend, noticed its a bit eratic at the traffic lights
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